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02 July 2008

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chris

The Crowley question about people with higher degrees being Dems: I've wondered this before, too. And I've wondered it aloud several times to a handful of my Repub friends. They resent that I am implying that D's are "smart" and R's are "dumb." I suppose that posing the question does suggest such a thing. I suppose. But there are a lot of smart people who are Rs. These friends that I antagonize with such questions are among them. Still, that the majority of higher degreed persons are Dems intrigues me...

jim

Parsing all of this donor info gives me tired-head, but I did find this site that lists donors for Obama:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

I would like Obama to provide us with more nuance when he says that he doesn't take PAC money. I'm pretty sure he means that he doesn't take money from CERTAIN PACs. He does take money from "bundlers" and at least some PACs.

But here's a bigger issue for me: When a bunch of individual employees of Goldman Sachs donate, what does that mean? Does that represent some position on the part of Goldman Sachs? I'm not sure it does. What are the demographics of these employees? Women? Men? Black? White? Can their single, shared identity be grouped neatly under the category "Goldman Sachs employee"?

And this goes for academics too: Should we be careful when claiming that "academics" are one big community? I think it's more complicated than that. Obviously, I wouldn't want to stop us from drawing a few generalizations about certain communities, but sometimes it's too enticing to group an entire community ("academics") under one big tent.

dhawhee

sigh, yeah, Chris. I have family members who are *very* smart too who don't vote democratic (so I didn't mean to suggest that they are not!) And one of the smartest students I've ever had was a died-in-the wool republican, so Horowitz types can calm down too. Of course it's a values thing. And Crowley is nothing if not provocative!

And Jim Brown, you're right--an employer only tells us so much, but it's still an interesting data point, as my numbers-driven colleagues would say.

mao.mimosa

I don't know about Rs and Ds, but I do know that David Brooks is, in a word, dumb.

dhawhee

mm: true dat.

OA

Here's a piece that demolishes the stats in that Brooks' column. The short story? Yep, he got it completely wrong. http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/01/muddy_brooks/

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