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12 December 2008

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J. K. Gayle

Wow, your post is beautiful writing. You bring us there in the room, filled with 10-pt font speaking and John Bulwer and Janet Emig, overhearing C. And then we stand outside again looking in, with Plato and you, wondering where we are. (I wonder if I hadn't been through this exam process, experiencing the performance, if I'd know what you mean -- or what I get from what you "say" here, without squinting). Thank you.

dave's not here

And underscores the notion of just how language, whether spoken or written, depends upon place and body (as if these two could ever be without one another). There are no disembodied or displaced communiques, even to ourselves, if that's how we are defining thought. I wonder if this is what it really means to have an open mind?

caraf

Yay for C! And especially for those notebooks!

caraf

Yay for C! And especially for those notebooks!

Richard Graff

"Listening to C in her exam yesterday, I realized that she speaks like a writer, like she writes—in full, vivid, paragraphs, her answers forming something like narrative arcs. Plato talks about writing taking the place of memory, and whether he is right about that or not, it is definitely the case that writing facilitates memory. . ."

And/or that writing -- long practice in writing with care -- can give a written "color" to one's more-or-less unplanned speech. Cicero and Quintilian sought and cultivated such facility:

"One who approaches oratory by way of long practice in writing, brings this advantage to the task, that even if [she] is extemporizing, whatever [she] may say bears a likeness to the written word" (Cic. De or. 1.152; cf. Orator 200)

"Certainly, writing is never more necessary than when we have to improvise a lot. It is the way in which weightiness can be maintained, and the superficial verbal facility acquire some depth. Think of the way farmers prune away the topmost roots of the vine, which pull the plant towards the surface, to enable the lower roots to go deeper and get stronger. It may well be that if we do both these things with care and persistence, each will help the other: we shall speak more exactly because we write, and write more fluently because we speak (ut scribendo dicamus diligentius, dicendo scribamus facilius)" (Q. Inst. or. 10.7-28-29)
And later:
"Is the orator always to speak as [she] writes? Yes, always, if [she] can" (12.10.55)

All this calls to mind W. B. Yeats' famous description of a specific later-day case of such "cultivation":

"My first meeting with Oscar Wilde was an astonishment. I never before heard a man talking with perfect sentences, as if he had written them all over night with labour and yet all spontaneous. . . I noticed, too, that the impression of artificiality that I think all Wilde's listeners have recorded, came from the perfect rounding of the sentences and from the deliberation that made it possible. That very impression helped him as the effect of metre, or of the antithetical prose of the seventeenth century, which is itself a true metre, helps a writer, for he could pass without incongruity from some unforeseen swift stroke of wit to elaborate reverie. . . " (W. B. Yeats, Four Years)

(Not that I assume from your account that C's performance gave an artificial impression!)

Way to go C!

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